Info-Atari16 Digest Sun, 12 Jan 92 Volume 92 : Issue 13 Today's Topics: AmigaFS atari-mac disk xchange Current TOS version? Due to popular demand (I will skip the obvious pun) Extensible Control Panel mystery Hermes UUCP package IBM software emulator need help with cadaver New Heat & Serve C compiler Revenge of the Mutant Camels (Was: Re: The best game...) search ftp-sites SST (68030) for the ST. 520ST? (2 msgs) Termcaps help... UW - downloading problems Wanted Monitor Weekly Posting of New Stuff Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 12 Jan 92 02:15:23 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!spool. mu.edu!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de!rusmv1!news.uni-tuebingen.de!mailserv!zxmgn01@ arizona.edu (Philipp Knirsch) Subject: AmigaFS To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In Martin_Koehling@un.maus.de (Martin Koehling) writes: >In >(Ph. Knirsch) writes: >>Sorry, Chris, but i never worked with MinT, because with only one megabyte >>it's just a bit difficult. But the idea for a additional Spectre or >>Mac-driver isn't bad. But as you know, those discs you write with normal >>Atari-drives aren't Mac-readabel. So i perhaps first do the AmigaFS, because >>it's the one i know and i have lots of information about. >Are you sure the 1772 FDC can read amiga discs? >As far as I know, the amiga floppy hardware can read IBM/Atari discs, >but not vice versa! >Bye > Martin (Martin_Koehling@un.maus.de) Hmmm... But some copy-programms copy a normaly Amiga-Formated disk without problems. So, why should it not be possible to do it?? Perhaps you are right when you look at single sectors, but i think if i can read track by track, that would be enough to build up a AmigaFS Phil. (zxmgn01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 09:48:15 -0500 From: steinberg@gene02.utoronto.ca Subject: atari-mac disk xchange To: naucse.cse.nau.edu!info-atari16@grind.utcs.utoronto.ca are the atari disks physically compatible to the mac diks? and if so, is there a program one could use to transfer text filesetc.? if not, what is the easiest way to accomplishthis? ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 92 01:38:48 GMT From: network.ucsd.edu!orion.oac.uci.edu!maxwell.oac.uci.edu!jvance@rutgers.rutgers.e du (Joachim Vance) Subject: Current TOS version? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <8162@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> cjd@zatch.Corp.Sun.COM writes: > I am planning on resurrecting a rather old 520ST (yep, only 512K), but since > I have very old ROM's in there I was curious as to the current level of TOS > the latest which will run on a 520, if that makes a difference; plus what's > change dramatically in the last few years... > > I assume these are available from Atari? For a price; any ideas on what > they charge for these things? TOS is up to 2.06 and 3.06 in the MegaSTE and TT respectively. TOS 1.4 (also know as Rainbow TOS) is the most recent version that will plug directly into your old 520 and is quite an improvement over TOS 1.0 (Though 'improvement' is relative for most). The visible changes include: - New file selector - Move files and folders with key - Skip a file during copy - Abort group copy, move and delete operations - MS-DOS Compatible Floppy Disk formatting - New copy disk<->disk utility - Can change folder name - Warm boot and Cold boot resets via key commands - can install Auto-Boot application - Install Application works correctly (You can reinstall applications) Non Visible Changes include - Much faster disk operation (hard disk too) - the built in cache works (use cacheXXX.prg) - essentially removed the 40 Folder bug (includes removed malloc bug) - BIOS-devicedrivers now work through pointers behind the system variables - The Clipboard routines work .. + many other bugs fixed TOS 1.4 is sold at a retail price of $99 but can be found as low as $60 (you can install them yourself or have them installed.) There may be *many* used sets of TOS 1.4 after the following: CodeHead Software recently announced the TEC, a TOS Extension Card developed by the german company Artifex, that allows you to plug TOS 2.06 into 520, 1040, and Mega STs. (Tos 2.06 will plug directly into STEs). It's said to be compatible with any existing upgrades like ram boards, 16mhz boards, etc. TOS 2.06 is a *very* large improvement over TOS 1.4 even. The most visible change is a new desktop, which contains features not much unlike NeoDesk's plus a few more, yet it is all in ROM. Some of the features of the TOS 2.06 desktop (from press release): o Programs, files, and folders can be placed directly on the desktop and started with a double click. o Up to 20 programs or documents can be assigned to the ST's function keys and started with a single keypress. o Data files can be "dragged" and dropped on program files, which starts the program and automatically loads the document! Some programs even support multiple document files in this manner. o Each file on your disk can have its own unique icon, or you can use a common icon type for each type of file. New icons can be created and added to the system. o Keyboard commands for almost everything! And not only can you control the new desktop with the keyboard (as well as the mouse), you can also redefine any of the key commands to suit your own tastes! o A powerful file search function, that lets you find and select files that match your specified criteria. o Window management is considerably enhanced; scrolling has been sped up, and selected files can remain selected even if you scroll the window to a different area of the file list. o Up to seven desktop windows can be open at once, and you can open directory windows with simple key presses -- even change a window to show a different drive without closing and reopening it. o The "View" menu now has an "unsorted" option, for showing the actual order of files and folders in a directory. o Any character in the "upper half" of the ST's font can be typed in by holding the Alternate key and typing its ASCII number on the numeric keypad. o Many of the special functions of the desktop (like copying, renaming, etc.) can now operate in "batch mode", to let you quickly rename or show info for a group of selected files, for example. o The bootup sequence now includes a graphic display of the Atari Fuji logo, and a memory test, and a configurable bootup delay that allows hard drives time to power up. It's also possible to bypass the AUTO folder entirely by holding Control during bootup. o Internal changes in the TOS program code result in very noticeable performance improvements in many areas. o ...and of course, lots more. This list barely shows the tip of the iceberg, in fact. The card is 2.5 by 2.5 inches and would require some soldering of jumpers and such to be installed in your 520 because the new TOS is located at a different address. They also have a nosolder version for Megas and one for ST's with a socketed 68000. The TEC with TOS 2.06 and a disk of utilities costs $139 direct from CodeHead. I think the no solder version is $155. I think they just started shipping it two days ago. And I don't doubt that they will sell every single one they can get their hands on. Apparently, they've already taken advance orders well above the total number of any single piece of software they've sold so far. CodeHead can be reached at (213) 386-5735. Supposedly one could install a switch between TOS 1.4 and TOS 2.06 for compatibility with programs that won't run under the new TOS. You would also likely find some of your old software wouldn't work under TOS 1.4 but not much. Most if not all new software runs under, or sometimes requires at least TOS 1.4 (and I would assume would work with TOS 2.06 as well.) I would recommend at least an upgrade to TOS 1.4 just so that you are compatible with most new commercial and non-commercial software coming out. I would guess that you will be able to find very good deals on used TOS 1.4 chips in the next few weeks. You might try a ram upgrade while you are at it or even a processor accelerator if you have the money. I started with an original 520 ST with TOS on disk! It works great with 2.5 meg and TOS 1.4 now (and maybe TOS 2.06 soon :). I would guess that 4meg TOS 1.4 520 STs are not too uncommon. If you go for the ram upgrade, get one that uses simms. (seems the way to go) On another note, is the TOS 1.4 and 2.06 feature list in the monthly FAQL? If not it probably should be. (sorry this post is so long) Joachim Vance -- Joachim Vance ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% I am antisesquipedalian--Opposed to the use of long words. ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 15:19:17 GMT From: tulane!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!pi!boyd@ames.arpa (Mickey Boyd) Subject: Due to popular demand (I will skip the obvious pun) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have put a file called p_worlds.txt on atari.archive.umich.edu. This file lists out a bunch of the world names in Populous (they are the same names for the Promised Lands data disk, although the worlds themselves are of course different). If you find any errors in the file, or have any world names that are not in there, please update it. Enjoy! -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Come to your senses professor FSU Computer Science | Fernberg. You did not transcend Technical Support Group | the time-space continuum. You email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu | got drunk in a topless bar." ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 07:34:37 GMT From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu!mmiller@uunet.uu.net (Mark Miller) Subject: Extensible Control Panel mystery To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu While I like the Extensible Control Panel, I have noticed that it seems to lose its functionality whenever I run an application. Of the applications I have used where I can access it (Uniterm and Word Up), they all seem to disable most of the CPX's. I have a Mega 1 STe, and I have not added CPX's to the control panel, nor have I changed the minimum number of slots in the setup menu. But when I run Uniterm, for example, and I access it, all the CPX's seem to be there. When I double click on one of them, like General Setup, the disk whirs, and then nothing happens. When I reload the CPX's, I notice that only two or three are actually accessible. The problem is even worse when I run Word Up (only the Configure CPX's option is available). What causes this, and how can I correct it if possible? Do I need to make the CPX's memory-resident? |Mark Miller, computer science |"I was just thinking of the immortal words | |major at C.S.U. | of Socrates...'I drank what?'" | |millerm@mozart.cs.colostate.edu |"What a waste it is to lose one's mind..." | | / Atari friend! ||| |"If we do not succeed, we run the risk of | | \/ --- The Mark )|( | failure." | | World Peace / | \ There's nothing else quite like it. | ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 92 21:50:40 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!rusmv1!delos !tyrell.tynet.sub.org!marsu.tynet.sub.org!wenzel@ames.arpa (Markus Wenzel) Subject: Hermes UUCP package To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In <1992Jan6.211927.5849@atari.uucp>, Allan Pratt writes: > martini@cloud9.in-berlin.de (Martin P. Ibert) writes: > >The "Mercury" UUCICO has been under constant development, is now at version > >3.21 and runs just fine at 19200 baud via a T2500 or via a direct serial > >line. Seems to be hard to beat in C. > > That's not the point. The point is that UUCICO is (well, was) written GFA > BASIC, and GFA BASIC doesn't work in a lot of environments that people use: > MiNT, TT RAM, etc. > > To be fair, OLDER VERSIONS of GFA BASIC suffer from this, but that includes > the version that UUCICO for Mercury was compiled with, last I saw. I don't > know if newer GFA BASIC compiled programs are 32-bit clean and/or do not > access memory they don't own, or make other unreasonable demands of the OS. As far as I know, the latest version 3.6 of GFA-BASIC claims to be fully TT compatible. Perhaps anybody should try to compile the UUCICO Basic source with this version, it could only get better... But I'm afraid that this is not the only problem. UUCICO uses e.g. LINE-A routines that should be replaced for the TT. -- * /dev/ Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart * * /usr/spool/mail/ wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org / @rus.uni-stuttgart.de * * /bin/ps -l TT admin on rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de * * /irc/nick Marsu2 * * /etc/motd >> Hey Dave, what about releasing Spectre 3.1 ? << * ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 21:24:01 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw .ac.nz!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs!status!jonc@arizona.edu (Jon Clarke) Subject: IBM software emulator To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu ritz@msb.com (Chris Mauritz) writes: > With the price of 286/386sx laptops falling rapidly, you might be better > served if you buy one of those instead of trying to kludge one up > on your ST. > Chris you are not wrong there. Here in NZ a Mega STe will cost over $nzd3500 while a 50mhz 386 with 128k cache mother board will cost you about $nzd700 or $nzd2500 complete with 40meg hard disk VGA and software like windows or OS/2 etc .. But I STill love my Mega (grin) and its pcspeed. _ Jon Clarke o( ) STaTus BBS, The Atari BBS in Auckland, NZ jonc@status.gen.nz / /\ If that does not work try these address's Auckland,New Zealand kcbbs.gen.nz!status!jonc or on GEnie : J.CLARKE6 ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jan 92 04:09:16 GMT From: uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate![donald.simmons%canrem.uucp]@uunet.uu.net (donald simmons) Subject: need help with cadaver To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I'm playing the Imageworks game Cadaver and I am stuck on the second level. I only have about 15% explored but every door is either locked, or there are bars blocking my path. I can get as far as the kitchen, but when I enter the corridor leading off it the door locks behind me, and all the other doors leading off it are locked, and bar block the far end. Can anyone give me some hints on how to complete this level? Donald Simmons UUCP: canrem!donald.simmons Internet: donald.simmons%canrem.uucp@lsuc.on.ca Others: donald.simmons@canrem.uucp -- Canada Remote Systems. Toronto, Ontario NorthAmeriNet Host ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 21:06:16 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw.ac. nz!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs!status!jonc@arizona.edu (Jon Clarke) Subject: New Heat & Serve C compiler To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington) writes: > If you peek in comp.binaries.atari.st, you'll see that Ian Lepore's > ``Heat and Serve'' version of Sozobon C is beginning to move across > the network. > Well it made its way to New Zealand here so that is one END of the earth Steve (grin). As an aside could you poST Mercury or Hermes to the GEnie RTC at some stage in the future? _ Jon Clarke o( ) STaTus BBS, The Atari BBS in Auckland, NZ jonc@status.gen.nz / /\ If that does not work try these address's Auckland,New Zealand kcbbs.gen.nz!status!jonc or on GEnie : J.CLARKE6 ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jan 92 16:34:41 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!samsung!transfer!bunny!genesis!nugget@ames.arpa (Ralph Barbagallo) Subject: Revenge of the Mutant Camels (Was: Re: The best game...) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan9.173013.4434@cam-orl.co.uk> pe@cam-orl.co.uk (Philip Elwell) writes: >In article <722@mwuk.UUCP>, tony@mwuk.UUCP (Tony Mountifield) writes: >|> In article <1992Jan08.103719.2429@spc.nl> stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma) writes: >|> > >|> > I have the new shareware game by Minter, Revenge of the Mutant Camels. At >|> > least as good as the CBM64 original! >|> >|> I had the C64 original, and always wondered what the title music was >|> called. I know it wasn't written specially, because I later saw the same >|> tune used in a repeat of "The Two Ronnies" TV show from the mid 1970s. >|> Does anyone know? >|> > >I believe it's called 'Egyptian Ballet' (or something similar), and is one of >the main reasons I bought a C64. > >The only reason my 64 is used now is for playing REVS... > >Phil (Geoff is God) Elwell > Can you get anywhere in Revs? I have REVS + and it is HARD! Any tips????? THe docs are also very complicated...hmmm, I think I better find them for the keyboard layout... Anyway, Attack of the Mutant camels was okay... But, the main reason I bought my c64 was when my friend showed me Ghostbusters, Ways of the Exploding Fist, and James Bond...I was sold!!!!!! (Beach Head II, another great one!) ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 18:50:30 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia .edu!ira.uka.de!sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de!uklirb!posthorn!zeus3.sozialwissenschaften.u ni-mannheim.de!zeus@arizona.edu (Thomas Walter Neser) Subject: search ftp-sites To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello, i search ftp-sites with atari-software and mailservers having it but only if they have an index of their files with a short description of the software. Without description the archie-server is no great help. Thanks a lot Thomas Neser, Zeus im MZES, Universitaet Mannheim, Steubenstr. 46, D-6800 Mannheim, Germany bitnet: fs21@dmarum8 internet: fs21@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de uucp: unima!fs21 x400: C=de; A= ; P=uni-mannheim; OU=rummelplatz; S=fs21; fax: +49-621-292-8435 tel: +49-621-292-8473 ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 19:01:35 GMT From: bonnie.concordia.ca!clyde.concordia.ca!IRO.UMontreal.CA!JSP.UMontreal.CA!u1398@ uunet.uu.net (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: SST (68030) for the ST. 520ST? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have been reading (Znet) about a 68030 upgrade called SST by David Small. Sounds good, but can it be installed in a 520ST from 1985? Or does one need a Mega ST, or a 1040ST, or one of the newer ( >1988 ) machines like STE or up? My 520ST has had a one meg Memory upgrade, so there's also less space inside. Send a followup article please, as others may also want to know. -- Das machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und corkenpoppen mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in das pockets, relaxen und vatch das blinkenlights!!! ------------- :-) ------ ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jan 92 05:09:51 GMT From: att!linac!mp.cs.niu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!bert.eecs.uic.edu!dillenbu@rutgers.rut gers.edu (John Dillenburg) Subject: SST (68030) for the ST. 520ST? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu u1398@jsp.umontreal.ca (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes: >I have been reading (Znet) about a 68030 upgrade called SST by David Small. >Sounds good, but can it be installed in a 520ST from 1985? Or does one need >a Mega ST, or a 1040ST, or one of the newer ( >1988 ) machines like STE or up? >My 520ST has had a one meg Memory upgrade, so there's also less space inside. >Send a followup article please, as others may also want to know. >-- >Das machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen >der springenwerk, blowenfusen und corkenpoppen mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht >fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in >das pockets, relaxen und vatch das blinkenlights!!! ------------- :-) ------ From what I've read on GENIE, the SST will not fit in anything but a Mega. IF you don't mind putting your ST in an AT case, then the SST is electrically compatible with the old STs. AS of yesterday, the SSTs were not shipping... John -- +-------------------------------------------------------+---------------------+ | John Dillenburg | "You can't keep a | | Univ. of Illinois at Chicago | man down without | | Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science | staying down with | ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 16:31:15 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!wn1.sci.kun.nl!sci.kun.nl!foda@uunet.uu.net (Omar Foda) Subject: Termcaps help... To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (john c chu) writes: >Hi, >I just downloaded the tcsh port as well as version 18.57 of GNU Emacs >from atari.archive. >Can someone please give me a Termcap entry that'll allow me to fully >use tcsh (i.e., arrow keys, at least?) as well as convince Emacs that >my terminal (i.e., the Atari ST) is powerful enough to run Emacs? >Or is there something more serious that is wrong (i.e., common mistake >during installation?) I have exactly the same problem. Please post help! Omar Foda. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 14:26:55 GMT From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!sunic!chalmers.se!dtek.chalmers.se!dxper@uunet.uu.net (Per Anders Olausson) Subject: UW - downloading problems To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have started to appreciate using Unix Windows on my ST when connected to Sun Sparcs. Unfourtunately I haven't been able to get kermit downloading to function correctly. Since that seems to be the only thing that might work, since it is the only protocol supported by the UW implementation I have and text capture won't work correctly I would like to know if someone has got this thing working. I suspect that it might be some simple configuration problem on the sparc side of the kermit thingy. I'm connected via a modemserver over a network to the sparcs ... (thus making a need for some sort of window scheme necessary in order to get downloading to work) I'm using a version made/ported by Brad Bosch/Brian Katzung (no version number found). Any help given would be appreciated greatly. Yours, pao -- -------------------------------Andrew Olausson-------------------------------- ------------------------------Systems Architect------------------------------- ----------------------------dxper@dtek.chalmers.se---------------------------- --------------------------------pao@proxxi.se--------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 10:14:23 GMT From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!wsu-cs!vela!sycom!bg258s1421@ames.arpa (Burley Good) Subject: Wanted Monitor To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hey does anybody have a color monitor for sale ?? {for my 520 ST} -- C-UseNet V0.55b ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? HELLO ? ? DON'T TALK TO TECHINAL PLEASE ? ? JUST TALK IN LAMENS TERMS ? ? I'LL WRITE BACK ANY HOW ? ? TAKE IT EASY! MOOSE ? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 92 10:02:02 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-st ate.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.e du!news.iastate.edu!sharkey! 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Everything works as before except my Z-modem downloads. I use XYZ.TTP with XYZSHELL.PRG, which has always worked well with RZ.EXE and SZ.EXE on our university VAX system. However, every download I've tried ends in a "CRC error" message. The instructions indicate that this is likely a line noise problem; but I can up- and download over these lines with KERMIT, and the ZMODEM uploads work fine too. I can certainly live with KERMIT, but ZMODEM has been a bit faster... Afer a lot of fiddling with the XYZSHELL settings, all to no avail, it's time to ask for help. Anybody have any suggestions? Many thanks-- Michael Johnston MJOHNSTON@COLGATEU.BITNET ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************